Winnie medical
Well we checked a lot, but found only a little bit..
Out of all available treatment options other than surgery i found mentioned only lupron, gonavet, cystorelin and human chorionic gonadotropin.
Reviews are mixed, some places say lupron is inefective but here on this forum i ve read it did help some female piigies.
Also for deslorelin implants somewhere is written is not effective for ovarian cyst, but in other site is written it helped a lot...
My experience with it..
Our Ringo had 4 injections with implants in like hm..5 years..
I think i would chose surgery now..but..it didnt cause him any damage other than permanent incontinence, but we let it be..we didnt bother him with any clothing or what not.. it took bit more cleaning but we did just fine.
However he had severe enlarged prostate ..in the first two round it completely became normal size..on 3. and 4. it stayed bit enlarged, but it helped enough if you will..he was also taking prostide..
So, i dont really belive it would be inefective for females, cause i know its obviously working to some degree..
However injection is quite large and i figured GOna vet injection is very small(its written online), so thats..better..
I also read Gona vet lasts few weeks to few months(about 3-6 from what i have found)..
No side effect are listed, but we will try to research that more.
Only thing we need figure out before goin to vet is dossage i would like to know myself before visit, so i can check myself..
And vet only mentioned one injection as its written in gonna vet instructions but online its written for larger cyst two is usually required.
Also Ringo took prostide cause hormones works more immidiatly after those things than it calms down..so i assume its better with pills to make it calmer, but i dont know if anything like that is suitable for pigs so..Win will most likely get just injections with no other treatment..
And feel free to correct my informations if you find it wrong
Out of all available treatment options other than surgery i found mentioned only lupron, gonavet, cystorelin and human chorionic gonadotropin.
Reviews are mixed, some places say lupron is inefective but here on this forum i ve read it did help some female piigies.
Also for deslorelin implants somewhere is written is not effective for ovarian cyst, but in other site is written it helped a lot...
My experience with it..
Our Ringo had 4 injections with implants in like hm..5 years..
I think i would chose surgery now..but..it didnt cause him any damage other than permanent incontinence, but we let it be..we didnt bother him with any clothing or what not.. it took bit more cleaning but we did just fine.
However he had severe enlarged prostate ..in the first two round it completely became normal size..on 3. and 4. it stayed bit enlarged, but it helped enough if you will..he was also taking prostide..
So, i dont really belive it would be inefective for females, cause i know its obviously working to some degree..
However injection is quite large and i figured GOna vet injection is very small(its written online), so thats..better..
I also read Gona vet lasts few weeks to few months(about 3-6 from what i have found)..
No side effect are listed, but we will try to research that more.
Only thing we need figure out before goin to vet is dossage i would like to know myself before visit, so i can check myself..
And vet only mentioned one injection as its written in gonna vet instructions but online its written for larger cyst two is usually required.
Also Ringo took prostide cause hormones works more immidiatly after those things than it calms down..so i assume its better with pills to make it calmer, but i dont know if anything like that is suitable for pigs so..Win will most likely get just injections with no other treatment..
And feel free to correct my informations if you find it wrong
Thank you all very much:), we appriciate it.
We really dont like this vet stuff, but the whole thing is too big to just let it be..
We have appointment for hormonal injection(Gonavet) at tuesday.. i ll call some vet tomorrow for second oppinion and send couple of mails today, but thats all we can do..i think..for now.
We really dont like this vet stuff, but the whole thing is too big to just let it be..
We have appointment for hormonal injection(Gonavet) at tuesday.. i ll call some vet tomorrow for second oppinion and send couple of mails today, but thats all we can do..i think..for now.
And cause you taught me how to calculate dossage and as far as my mathematical logic work..
In Gonavet instruction is written dossage for cows with ovarian cyst is 2.0ml..cows weight around500kg.
So 500kg .. 2.0ml
(/5) 100kg 0,4ml
(/10) 10kg 0,04
(/10) 1kg 0,004 (and Win is 0,7kg anyway)
This is how we did it at school and 0,004 is very little dossage i would say even 0,04 would be..so its a bit confusing to me..
In Gonavet instruction is written dossage for cows with ovarian cyst is 2.0ml..cows weight around500kg.
So 500kg .. 2.0ml
(/5) 100kg 0,4ml
(/10) 10kg 0,04
(/10) 1kg 0,004 (and Win is 0,7kg anyway)
This is how we did it at school and 0,004 is very little dossage i would say even 0,04 would be..so its a bit confusing to me..
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Talishan
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We used to do what Lynx mentions with oral meds.
You have every right to know exactly what's going on. Be courteous, respectful and friendly (I always took the approach of 'I want to learn' and most vets were good with that), but you have every right to be as satisfied as possible with any treatment before it starts.
Best wishes and blessings.
You have every right to know exactly what's going on. Be courteous, respectful and friendly (I always took the approach of 'I want to learn' and most vets were good with that), but you have every right to be as satisfied as possible with any treatment before it starts.
Best wishes and blessings.
Thank you..ah the vet knows me..and while i sometimes really expected too much of some, of this one i never did. And Win doesnt necessary have one vet we hang on..we hang loose..as last couple of years with Irie. We called ones who we tought they could help-depend on situation..we didnt have this *SPECIAL*one to solve everything as we did with dogs and cats.
This vet is simple man..y know. and i mean is as compliment..he s focused and does his things..so..i will ask him about the dossage(sadly i couldnt find enough usefull infomation on dossages...somewhere said 0,2ml for rabbit, i calculated 0,004(which is unlekely cause its too small) but Win weight is only 700g. and method of application(we want under skin not in muscular)..
Would also prefer more information on being ued for guinea pigs. Even for Cystorelin is written is off label so..this is too..
I asked some other exotic vet, and they dindt know too much about to be used and succesfull it so they suggested surgery(i know its more effective)..
so, fair enough..
Thank you and we will see..and btw..i think not necessary in educational purpose(that is good), but you know when someone said..is this aproblem, cause i dont like problems.. cause y know i dont like problems either..:)So, lets make it clear..
This vet is simple man..y know. and i mean is as compliment..he s focused and does his things..so..i will ask him about the dossage(sadly i couldnt find enough usefull infomation on dossages...somewhere said 0,2ml for rabbit, i calculated 0,004(which is unlekely cause its too small) but Win weight is only 700g. and method of application(we want under skin not in muscular)..
Would also prefer more information on being ued for guinea pigs. Even for Cystorelin is written is off label so..this is too..
I asked some other exotic vet, and they dindt know too much about to be used and succesfull it so they suggested surgery(i know its more effective)..
so, fair enough..
Thank you and we will see..and btw..i think not necessary in educational purpose(that is good), but you know when someone said..is this aproblem, cause i dont like problems.. cause y know i dont like problems either..:)So, lets make it clear..
https://www.vetexotic.theclinics.com/ar ... 0085-6/pdf
We finally found it..:)
So dossage is around 25mcg which would be 0,5ml i think..
We finally found it..:)
So dossage is around 25mcg which would be 0,5ml i think..
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Talishan
- You can quote me
I will say not all meds can be delivered subcutaneously (under the skin). Some have to be IM (in the muscle). As best I recall the hormonal injections are IM. She'll be a little achy and the injection will be uncomfortable (just like a human), but in my experience there are other shots that hurt worse and this one's not that big of a deal. (She may disagree on that.)
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