KMS Hayloft
- Sef
- I dissent.
I didn't get that email, either---but I got one the other day saying they would send me an update (it wasn't from Dan; some name I didn't recognize). I really feels like the left hand at KMS doesn't know what the right hand is doing.
Anyway, that's good to hear. I am running low again and had to order Oxbow, too. My last batch of KMS came from Amazon.com (they sent 5 lbs. and not 10 lb, but that might have been my fault), but they are sold out there, too.
Anyway, that's good to hear. I am running low again and had to order Oxbow, too. My last batch of KMS came from Amazon.com (they sent 5 lbs. and not 10 lb, but that might have been my fault), but they are sold out there, too.
- PinkRufus
- Contributor in 2020
It was a reply to an email I sent asking when they expected to get them in again, not a bulk mailing. My guys came from a pellet-free home, but I had to go and introduce them to KMS! They don't eat many, so I can hopefully stretch them out before resorting to a bag of Oxbow. They didn't want these at first, so I don't know what they would think of Oxbow.
I found a place to get Timothy Hay and Oxbow pellets so I don't have to get them online. Tractor Supply Store has 50 lb bales of Timothy Grass and so far it's been really fresh and green. Since I didn't know where anything is around here, being new to the area I have been looking into KMS Hayloft when I found that store. I have to drive an hour and a half round trip, but it's better than having order online and waiting for the mail. I can make the trip worthwhile by getting a month's supply too.
The hay is $22.50 per 50 lb bale and the pellets are $8 for a 5 lb bag. My pigs eat pellets, but they don't eat much of them, so 2 bags can last them for the month. I should have known that moving to farm country would make getting supplies for my guinea pigs easier, cheaper and I would get better hay.
The hay is $22.50 per 50 lb bale and the pellets are $8 for a 5 lb bag. My pigs eat pellets, but they don't eat much of them, so 2 bags can last them for the month. I should have known that moving to farm country would make getting supplies for my guinea pigs easier, cheaper and I would get better hay.
I was just about to make a new thread about any other place I may be able to buy pellets since kms has been sold out for a while and saw this thread lol
I am running low but i guess I'll wait till next week and ration.
Incase I do need to buy some, what is the next best place for that?
I am running low but i guess I'll wait till next week and ration.
Incase I do need to buy some, what is the next best place for that?
- Lynx
- Celebrate!!!
It would be interesting if someone who had the funds to do so would pay for an analysis of the KMS pellets to compare the timothy and alfalfa pellets for all nutrients and calcium content.
Do all the bags you have been receiving have labels that look like this? The date should be adjusted depending on when milled.

Here's an example of a pellet for swine and laboratories that might analyze it:
https://www.asi.k-state.edu/research-and-extension/swine/swinenutritionguide/feedanalysis.html
The above page gives an idea of how to interpret data and what sort of data might be included in an analysis. They do recommend resampling if values are outside of normal. However, I do think that given the very small amounts of pellets each guinea pig usually eats, uniform dispersal of ingredients is extremely important.
Do all the bags you have been receiving have labels that look like this? The date should be adjusted depending on when milled.

Here's an example of a pellet for swine and laboratories that might analyze it:
https://www.asi.k-state.edu/research-and-extension/swine/swinenutritionguide/feedanalysis.html
The above page gives an idea of how to interpret data and what sort of data might be included in an analysis. They do recommend resampling if values are outside of normal. However, I do think that given the very small amounts of pellets each guinea pig usually eats, uniform dispersal of ingredients is extremely important.
- Sef
- I dissent.
That is the label.
I'm getting really frustrated with KMS. They sent me an email a week or so ago that the pellets were being milled and would be available "soon," which was a huge relief. When I didn't see any other updates, I wrote back and asked if they knew when they would be ready to ship. One of their reps emailed me back to say that he or she could "put together an order for you and invoice you." I thought that was great, and wrote back immediately to say YES, please do that. Didn't hear back. Wrote to them twice last week for a status and ask if they are sending me an order (their website still shows timothy pellets are out of stock) but have not had any response. Again, I understand that circumstances can happen beyond their control, but why can't they respond to customer emails---or at least post an update on their site?
Meanwhile, I am almost completely out of KMS pellets, now, and have been mixing 50/50 with what I thought was Oxbow Garden Select---only to realize that I ordered the wrong thing and have been using the Organics formula for close to two weeks, which has calcium carbonate in it. So now I'm scrambling to get a bag of GS and hoping that I don't run into bladder issues with our guys because of this mistake.
I'm getting really frustrated with KMS. They sent me an email a week or so ago that the pellets were being milled and would be available "soon," which was a huge relief. When I didn't see any other updates, I wrote back and asked if they knew when they would be ready to ship. One of their reps emailed me back to say that he or she could "put together an order for you and invoice you." I thought that was great, and wrote back immediately to say YES, please do that. Didn't hear back. Wrote to them twice last week for a status and ask if they are sending me an order (their website still shows timothy pellets are out of stock) but have not had any response. Again, I understand that circumstances can happen beyond their control, but why can't they respond to customer emails---or at least post an update on their site?
Meanwhile, I am almost completely out of KMS pellets, now, and have been mixing 50/50 with what I thought was Oxbow Garden Select---only to realize that I ordered the wrong thing and have been using the Organics formula for close to two weeks, which has calcium carbonate in it. So now I'm scrambling to get a bag of GS and hoping that I don't run into bladder issues with our guys because of this mistake.
- ItsaZoo
- Supporter in 2022
Thanks for pointing that out about Oxbow pellets. I have been feeding the Essentials Adult pellets, which does not list calcium carbonate in the ingredients. So I assumed they made their other pellets without calcium carbonate, too. But I just checked and the Essentials Adult seem to be the only ones without calcium carbonate. Yesterday I ordered a small bag of Essentials Young pellets, but maybe that wasn’t such a good idea.
So, I cancelled my autoship weeks ago, and recently I got an email saying my shipment was on its way. I responded to say I cancelled and did not want the pellets. I got a quick response from Dan saying it was his mistake. I checked my card and they have not billed me, but I just noticed they billed me twice in July without shipping anything, and they issued one refund in early Aug. I will dispute the unrefunded charge. I just want to be done with KMS.