Eye ulcer snd vet visit

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sozansound2

Post   » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:08 pm


i had asked a question earlier about how much syringe feedings of critical care should i give her in a day if she eats all her veggies everyday. since the recommended is max of 6 or more, my plan is to give her 3. one in the morning, second around 4-5pm and the last when i am going to bed.

her weight on january 19 = 805 grams and in january 20 = 815 grams. she used to be 795 gram in january 16 which was 1 day after stone confirmation.

she eats allot of veggies actually. i give 4 water syringes (4ml of water), she eats about 2.5-3 lettuce and a bit over a handful of bell peppers everyday. veggies soaked in water of course and have her chase after them for some exercise (2 times a day)

i gave her pellets on january 18 since she was asking for some but on the 19th was when i noticed hay behavior changes and gave her the first critical care syringe at night which she behaved very well. she loved it. since i was gonna start critical care from then on, i decided not to give pellets since i felt was not necessary.

just now was not so simple as she was going to war and did not want to eat the critical care. was very messy but allot of the critical care she ate unwillingly lmao. she likes to move sideways while tucking her head down covering her mouth which is pretty annoying to deal with. for a pig with a stone, she does have allot of energy to dodge syringes

sozansound2

Post   » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:27 pm


let me know your opinions of the above. would be appreciated

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Renonvsparky

Post   » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:12 pm


Just a note here for other readers, hay is the BEST method of ensuring your guinea pig's teeth are properly worn. I have never recommend chew sticks (I think they are a gimmick and not necessary at all).
I mean to clarify what I said about chew sticks. I don't use them as a replacement for proper teeth wear from eating hay. My guinea pigs chew everything and without something for them to chew on, they'll chew the plastic on their cages, huts and tunnels. If you have a pig who isn't eating enough hay to keep their teeth properly worn down, you could offer chew sticks if they'll even chew them on a temporary basis until you get them back to eating like they should. It doesn't do as much for their molars as it does for their incisors. I don't give them just any old wood to chew on either since treated wood isn't good for them. The kind I get is dense and designed for minimal splintering.

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ItsaZoo
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Post   » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:08 pm


The antibiotic is probably effecting her appetite, that’s pretty common and very frustrating. Critical Care will help if you can feed enough. Sometimes it helps to add some shredded carrot or other veggie that she likes, and maybe she will eat the Critical Care on her own instead of you having to syringe feed so much.

I had some success with making kind of a cole slaw or smoothie with hay, Critical Care and carrot in a Ninja smoothie blender. The downside is you have to make about 2 cups so the blender works right. I ended up freezing dollops of it and feeding a dollop a few time per day.

sozansound2

Post   » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:49 pm


so you blended critical care with hay and carrots?

she has always been mad for carrots so i believe it can work. just so happen to have a ninja blender myself but it is the big one. does that matter?

also when you froze them, did you just give them as is or did you wait till they got back to room temperature?

sozansound2

Post   » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:56 pm


so i did blend CC with carrots, some green bell peppers, and hay. she ate most of it on her own but my worry is that probably later she wont eat it on her own. last night before bed i was gonna syringe feed normal CC but she was even worse than the previous time.

she would even go as far as pushing the CC with her tounge out of her mouth even if it was placed down in the middle of her mouth. the syringe is kind of long and probably can make it to her throat but when you even get the syringe in her mouth she just ducks and weaves no matter what type of grip i have. she was even tired and still had the strength to keep going. i ended up giving up cause she was probably super stressed. i did get her to eat some but not as much as you would want.

if she don't eat the blended CC later, then i may end up dipping her veggies into it cause feeding water by syringe is much easier. i usually soak veggies in water.

i mostly use my pointer and thumb to hold her cheeks so she wont turn but she always ducks and my grip gets loose and then turns sideways and have to re-adjust.

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Renonvsparky

Post   » Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:07 pm


How full is the syringe each time you feed her? How often do you feed her? With a couple of mine, I had to do half syringes and smaller portions fed more often. In other words, spread it out to give her time to settle down. I do warn you that doing it that way can weigh very heavily on you. I didn't get more than a cat nap here and there when I had to feed mine that way. Have you tried wrapping her in a towel or blanket? That can help stabilize your grip so you don't have to hold her so tightly and it helps keep her from struggling so much.

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:02 pm


Have you read this? Maybe it would help. Pinta talks about a vice-like grip:
http://www.guinealynx.info/tips.html

There is also a more relaxed way having the guinea pig in the crook of your arm on a counter.

sozansound2

Post   » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:23 pm


since she started to eat a bit more hay than before, i went from 3 down to 2. the syringe was the equivalent of almost a full syringe but since i blended it, i just place it in her bowl. she did eat most of it this morning. i would hope later today she would eat some the same way.

and trust me, i have been tired everyday making sure she is moving around and cleaning around her and making sure she is constantly moving. it helps for her to pee more and poop more as well. i wake up around 4-5am to remove her hut for a few minutes so she can stretch and maybe get some hay/water (whatever she is in the mood for) cause if i don't do that, she will just stay there. today was the first time she actually came out on her own so i am hopeful she does the same when i am sleeping.

i have not wrapped her in a towel.
the vice grip is how i do it as well. never had to do it very much so it is much of a learning process for me.

to be honest, so far, she is one tough pig with everything.

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Lynx
Celebrate!!!

Post   » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:51 pm


Sounds like you are doing pretty well - except it also sounds like you need a break!

sozansound2

Post   » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:06 pm


also juggling college. being online very much helps keeping an eye on her 24/7

sozansound2

Post   » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:41 pm


well the good news is she ate willingly on her plate. i swear that puts more stress on me than on her.

i also have seen her poop out normal poop but they tend to come in different shapes and sizes. i know what some of them mean but kinda hard to know what is missing when all of them get thrown out. no diarrhea doe.

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Renonvsparky

Post   » Sat Jan 22, 2022 4:56 am


You sound like you're experiencing the same exact feelings I did with Scruffy, who was the first sick piggie I had to handfeed and treat. He had a severe bowel infection that nearly killed him and shortened his life. It's stressful and it weighs very heavily on you. What you are doing by documenting the ordeal here is the best thing you can do. Virtually every one of us on this forum has gone through what you are dealing with at least once, as have you. We sympathize with you. We don't always have an answer for you or a suggestion that you can use, but being able to come here and post your progress helps you and will eventually help someone else who may have to go through this. Just know that you are doing everything you can and that we are with you.

I made a lot of mistakes with Scruffy's illness, but he pulled through that with the help and encouragement from my friends here. If you want to read about Scruffy and what we went through, it's on the first 4 pages of his and Mr Bubbles medical thread. You might get a few tips on what to do and what not to do.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=77320

After page 4, there were some bouts with illnesses for Scruffy and I until he passed away on December 8, 2019.

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Sef
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Post   » Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:15 am


Well said, Renonvsparky.

Keeping my fingers crossed and pulling for you both.

sozansound2

Post   » Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:57 pm


yea, i gave it a read. that sounds awful. i did get some ideas from it too

sozansound2

Post   » Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:05 pm


well, today was not great for critical care this morning (a few hours ago). she did not want to eat it on her own like yesterday so i took the advice to use a towel and it did help in making sure she dont tuck her head in. i believe she got some to eat but not as much as i wanted too. i think i will do better the next time i give it another go (in a few hours) since it was my first time using a towel.

i am also gonna add more water to the CC to make it less thick since a light turned on in my head saying that is probably why she is able to use her tongue to push it right out of her mouth. if it is more liquid ish than thick then it is hard for her to push everything out in one go. i left it a bit thick since i thought she would appreciate something to chew on since she ate it on her own. thing is i hate syringe feeding since i have seen her in more pain after CC feeding when placed back in her cage. i assume her fighting back and using every muscle in her being is moving that stone but i know it is important.

at least she still eats her veggies. i am also thinking of introducing her pellets again to help wear down some of her teeth at least (her teeth are not big. they are well trimmed currently). i don't know if that is a good idea since i am attempting to give her CC. she may eat hay but like 3 to 4 small strands. sometimes a bit more.

kind of sucks she wont eat it on her own. she was in a bit of pain when i went to place her bowl next to her. she came to see but went back into her pig hut. maybe that is why she didn't want too

sozansound2

Post   » Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:26 pm


of course she eats pellets willingly lmao. i needed to give her something with timothy hay. gave her a little bit of pellets. it has been 2 days since i have and i also thought since it has vit B supplement in them, it would help entice more hay eating. don't have vit b for her right now.
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Renonvsparky

Post   » Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:28 pm


If she likes the apple banana flavor, she might like the papaya too. It is a very fine grind and much easier to work with. It doesn't have any bits that clog the syringe and its easier to make a slurry out of which she can't expel so easily. I've found that the fine grind is so much easier to work with and every one of my pigs like the papaya flavor. Might be worth a try.


sozansound2

Post   » Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:33 pm


i was given the option of the regular and fine grind. i have not had any issues with the regular apple banana clogging the syringe yet since i had enough water to keep it liquid but tick enough for her to have something to chew if that makes sense since she like hard things to chew on. i will just make it more liquid. i have not had any issues giving her liquid pain meds and water syringes. think it should work out better than what i have been dong so far.

sozansound2

Post   » Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:51 pm


here to report my findings:

i smeared critical care to her veggies. left the side that i would give her to chase empty so she smells the lettuce but the rest of the veggies are covered in a light coating of CC. it was successful. The amount covered of CC was a full syringe worth of it in total. i tried not to smear a chunk since i was afraid as she keeps eating the chunk would drop off the veggie. i also added a bit more water to make it less chunky and more liquid for easy smearing. i used the lettuce and cut them up in a good size square with a knife. great scoop for smearing. half the veggies was smeared so she can chase after them for some exercise

then i placed the other half of the lettuce into a plate with the rest of the CC and tossed them like a salad against the CC under them. she ate that too. there was green peppers on both sides but i did not smear them. whatever CC from the lettuce that got on my fingers, i would use that to smear the green pepper to give to her.

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